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Hello all!

I'm frankly at a loss here.
I've been using Evolution Mail for years, mainly connecting to Exchange
accounts.

Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.

Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404 once.

The central IT-department are curiously quiet when I approach them with
questions if anything has changed wrt Office365.

For now, I'm using Thunderbird, but can't add any shared calenders which
is kind of a serious dealbreaker.
The Office365 web mail solution "works" of course but is just so...
hideously clunky and slow. I'll leave it at that.

Looking through the web, most say that Evolution works just fine with
Office365.
I did run across an eight year old article on Askubuntu that seems
similar to my problem;
https://askubuntu.com/questions/109548/evolution-and-office-365.
None of the suggested solutions there seem to work though for me.

Any chance of a hint or two to try out from you guys?
Thanks.



PS.
I use Kubuntu 20.04.1 BTW. Some cosmetic desktop tweaks have been done
on this particular system, otherwise it's plain vanilla really. DS.



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Hello Sorin,

I use Evolution with my work's Office365 on Ubuntu 20.4.1 with all of
the lattest updates. I have verified that it  is still working.

I did have an issue with the serrver certificate on December 18th.
Evolution complained that the certificate signing authority was
unknown, but the date on the cert was still good. The error went away
after accepting the cert temporarily. I suspect that was to do with
corporate maintenance that occurs weekly around that time more than any
issue with Evolution.

I am sorry that I can not offer anything else other than our
installation is still working. I agree with your comments concerning
calendars and webmail.

Best regards,
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Hi,

On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>
> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
> once.

See https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging how to provide
debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.

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On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>
>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>> once.
>
> See https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebugging&data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3D&reserved=0 how to provide
> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.

I'll look into that and get back to the list, thanks!

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On 2020-12-21 16:59, Peter Franzek wrote:

> Hello Sorin,
>
> I use Evolution with my work's Office365 on Ubuntu 20.4.1 with all of
> the lattest updates. I have verified that it  is still working.
>
> I did have an issue with the serrver certificate on December 18th.
> Evolution complained that the certificate signing authority was
> unknown, but the date on the cert was still good. The error went away
> after accepting the cert temporarily. I suspect that was to do with
> corporate maintenance that occurs weekly around that time more than any
> issue with Evolution.
>
> I am sorry that I can not offer anything else other than our
> installation is still working. I agree with your comments concerning
> calendars and webmail.

Hello Peter!
Wrt the server certs, do you mean corporate maintenance at your company
or are we speaking on the Microsoft side?


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On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>
>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>> once.
>
> See https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebugging&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3D&amp;reserved=0 how to provide
> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.


Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.

Debug output is coming soonish.



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On 2020-12-21 18:42, Sorin Srbu wrote:

> On 2020-12-21 17:15, Andre Klapper via evolution-list wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 15:33 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
>>> Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
>>> worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
>>>
>>> Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
>>> I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
>>> query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
>>> once.
>>
>> See https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebugging&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7Ce54f55112d634b6d0fe508d8a5cba03d%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441641273958705%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=jVCpavAgMTp2W5Znx655Vd26f%2FPfViwTD2C2WvrOK2A%3D&amp;reserved=0 how to provide
>> debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.
>
>
> Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.
>
> Debug output is coming soonish.

First test using https://outlook.office365.com per various suggestions
on the web:
https://cloud.srbu.se:444/index.php/s/MW4ekdgFwzPBZeg

Second attempt using https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx
that until a few days ago:
https://cloud.srbu.se:444/index.php/s/6EHEjFtktF5xry6

Let me know if you can't access them.
Thanks.


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On Mon, 2020-12-21 at 18:06 +0000, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:

> > > > Even after my works' move to Office365 a year ago or so, Evolution
> > > > worked just fine, until a few days ago that is.
> > > >
> > > > Now it keeps asking me for my password on and on again.
> > > > I redid my Evo-install and noticed it now says that the Autodiscovery
> > > > query fails. It varies between error 400, 401 and I think I saw a 404
> > > > once.
> > >
> > > See https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FDebugging&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104853949%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=sfIxDReOzyykrz8cCL66fvIBXAdvn2YK%2FAlMXwUOqqo%3D&amp;reserved=0 how to provide
> > > debug output. For future reference, please include Evo version info.
> >
> > Evolution is version 3.36.4-0ubuntu1.
> >
> > Debug output is coming soonish.
>
> First test using https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=i4wxlrsur5Ts7bxUv%2FwHGyq0WzUvG05nUYyKhL5SzWk%3D&amp;reserved=0 per various suggestions
> on the web:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcloud.srbu.se%3A444%2Findex.php%2Fs%2FMW4ekdgFwzPBZeg&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=JfyEZjgbtQDs4YOnol3FMzuOsOhuas8SGXTNXs6QGjU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> Second attempt using https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutlook.office365.com%2FEWS%2FExchange.asmx&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=m1LJ8LkzbYcYqpkElDhdeYMdfSQBWFRkXXGBHG1zygE%3D&amp;reserved=0
> that until a few days ago:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcloud.srbu.se%3A444%2Findex.php%2Fs%2F6EHEjFtktF5xry6&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C3b0ec39cb7fc409f6ae208d8a5db2f5e%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637441708104863945%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=O%2BamQBgSzsYfAK1h5EacP9mDtjB%2BBwKD1FH1%2Bjn3Aio%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> Let me know if you can't access them.
> Thanks.

The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
again.

The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
Office365.

I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
online, as it seems it currently dosn't?

What is the list's thoughts on this?

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>
>
> The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
> again.
>
> The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
> enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> Office365.
>
> I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
>
> What is the list's thoughts on this?
>

Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
sufficient.

P.


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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 14:55 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:

> >
> >
> > The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> > temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
> > again.
> >
> > The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
> > enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> > working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> > Office365.
> >
> > I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> > work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> > online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
> >
> > What is the list's thoughts on this?
> >
>
> Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> sufficient.

We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.

 Jocke
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> > >
> >
> > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > sufficient.
>
> We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
> once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
>
Interesting. So you can't setup an O365 account with MFA turned on in
Evolution?  Is there a bug filed against that? (Because it is surely a
bug somewhere along the line.)

I'm interested in this because my organisation is big and lumbers along
- trying to get them to do fine-tuning changes such as that for
individuals is almost impossible. Having some bug reference to throw at
them will help.

P.


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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:13 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:

> > > >
> > >
> > > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > > sufficient.
> >
> > We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
> > once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
> >
> Interesting. So you can't setup an O365 account with MFA turned on in
> Evolution?  Is there a bug filed against that? (Because it is surely a
> bug somewhere along the line.)
>
> I'm interested in this because my organisation is big and lumbers along
> - trying to get them to do fine-tuning changes such as that for
> individuals is almost impossible. Having some bug reference to throw at
> them will help.

No bug, I think I read on some Evolution/GNOME www page that that is how it works w.r.t EWS/MFA

 Jocke
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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 14:55 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:

> >
> > The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> > temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
> > again.
> >
> > The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
> > enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> > working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> > Office365.
> >
> > I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> > work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> > online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
> >
> > What is the list's thoughts on this?
> >
>
> Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> sufficient.
Really?
I don't even get that far to be able to use the MS Authenticator.



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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:05 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
wrote:

> On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 14:55 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > >
> > > The IT-dept got back to me just now, and let me know that they've as a
> > > temporary workaround turned of MFA for my mail account - Evolution now works
> > > again.
> > >
> > > The way I think is that since Evolution is the only mail client with proper
> > > enterprise capabilities, it'd probably be of interest to many to get it
> > > working with the highest security settings available as seen on Outlook at
> > > Office365.
> > >
> > > I'm kinda wondering if there's any work being done on getting Evolution to
> > > work with Microsoft's modified variant of OAuth2, as used by Office365
> > > online, as it seems it currently dosn't?
> > >
> > > What is the list's thoughts on this?
> > >
> >
> > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > sufficient.
>
> We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
> once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
Oh!

I've only used Basic or NTLM authentication previously when I was
reconfigured to use MFA and Evolution stopped working for me.

Shouldn't it have worked for me with MFA then?

Is there any guide or some such I could forward or point to the mail admins
to get MFA working with Office365 and MFA?


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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:13 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:

> > >
> > > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > > sufficient.
> >
> > We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
> > once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
> >
> Interesting. So you can't setup an O365 account with MFA turned on in
> Evolution?  Is there a bug filed against that? (Because it is surely a
> bug somewhere along the line.)
>
> I'm interested in this because my organisation is big and lumbers along
> - trying to get them to do fine-tuning changes such as that for
> individuals is almost impossible. Having some bug reference to throw at
> them will help.
Same here!

@Joakim; you wouldn't have that web page available bookmarked?
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On Sat, 2020-12-26 at 13:12 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Shouldn't it have worked for me with MFA then?
>
> Is there any guide or some such I could forward or point to the mail
> admins to get MFA working with Office365 and MFA?

        Hi,
once you choose "OAuth2 (Office365)" Authentication Type in the Mail
account configuration you see additional values to be filled to make it
work. That also involves a clickable "Help..." link above those new
values. When you click it, it opens the following web page in your
browser:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2

        Bye,
        Milan

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On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 12:08 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-12-26 at 13:12 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Shouldn't it have worked for me with MFA then?
> >
> > Is there any guide or some such I could forward or point to the mail
> > admins to get MFA working with Office365 and MFA?
>
> Hi,
> once you choose "OAuth2 (Office365)" Authentication Type in the Mail
> account configuration you see additional values to be filled to make it
> work. That also involves a clickable "Help..." link above those new
> values. When you click it, it opens the following web page in your
> browser:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.gnome.org%2FApps%2FEvolution%2FEWS%2FOAuth2&amp;data=04%7C01%7Csorin.srbu%40ki.se%7C6ff1ca8f112f4aa4c45908d8b0a1ca40%7Cbff7eef1cf4b4f32be3da1dda043c05d%7C0%7C0%7C637453556215323171%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=iLU8%2FhdCEbiTU8QqQ9UANipwTGh%2BuMd4WMp4otoj6Ks%3D&amp;reserved=0
Yupp, the application and tenant-IDs etc?
Those are something the mail admins won't disclose.
Supposedly they are secret and also requires me to login to the Azure AD
Manager.

I feel OAuth2 is rather cumbersome with Evolution, unfortunately. It seems
to require high-leveled admin-permissions and special consideration from the
mail admins, something that end-users like me won't get at our university.

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On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 12:35 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> Yupp, the application and tenant-IDs etc?

        Hi,
right, all those things. The page offers some defaults, you can try
them (if you are lucky, the Application ID from there will work; if
not, you can ask the admins to allow it). In fact, the admins do not
want to "expose" anything, they only need to create (or allow the
existing) an application as is described on that page and give you the
Application ID. Everything is described on that page. Creating their
own application ID gives them full control on the data being used by
the application, by providing their own Application ID.

> I feel OAuth2 is rather cumbersome with Evolution, unfortunately.

If it's not clear from the Wiki page, the cumbersomeness is caused by
the Exchange settings, not by the application (Evolution) here. They
make it rather complicated to setup for the EWS protocol. I just want
to be fair.

        Bye,
        Milan

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On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 13:05 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

> On Mon, 2021-01-04 at 12:35 +0100, Sorin Srbu via evolution-list wrote:
> > Yupp, the application and tenant-IDs etc?
>
> Hi,
> right, all those things. The page offers some defaults, you can try
> them (if you are lucky, the Application ID from there will work; if
> not, you can ask the admins to allow it). In fact, the admins do not
> want to "expose" anything, they only need to create (or allow the
> existing) an application as is described on that page and give you the
> Application ID. Everything is described on that page. Creating their
> own application ID gives them full control on the data being used by
> the application, by providing their own Application ID.
I have tried to get that access earlier at a few occasions as well as
answers on what the tenant-ID is, but to no avail.
From time to time, I get the feeling that "non-standard" mailers like
Evolution Mail gets across as "dangerous" by the presumably Windows-centric
mail admins at the central IT-dep't... :-/

Will try again. Thanks for the confirmation though.


> > I feel OAuth2 is rather cumbersome with Evolution, unfortunately.
>
> If it's not clear from the Wiki page, the cumbersomeness is caused by
> the Exchange settings, not by the application (Evolution) here. They
> make it rather complicated to setup for the EWS protocol. I just want
> to be fair.

You are right of course. I didn't quite think that through all the way.
Apologies.

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On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:25 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list wrote:

> On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 15:13 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Evolution works fine with Office365 and MFA, I have it set up on
> > > > multiple machines.  What sort of MFA are you using - I know hardware
> > > > keys don't work on Linux, but the Microsoft Authenticator app is
> > > > sufficient.
> > >
> > > We have recently discovered that initial account configuration needs to use basic auth mode,
> > > once you are done you can switch to MFA. This is not obvious for users.
> > >
> > Interesting. So you can't setup an O365 account with MFA turned on in
> > Evolution?  Is there a bug filed against that? (Because it is surely a
> > bug somewhere along the line.)
> >
> > I'm interested in this because my organisation is big and lumbers along
> > - trying to get them to do fine-tuning changes such as that for
> > individuals is almost impossible. Having some bug reference to throw at
> > them will help.
>
> No bug, I think I read on some Evolution/GNOME www page that that is how it works w.r.t EWS/MFA
>

So now my company turned off Basic auth for normal users and only allow O365 OAuth.
This mean we cannot create new Evo accounts, I cannot recall where I read that this is
a limitation. Would be great if Milan could refresh me :)

Also, I guess this will be fairly frequent going forward, is there a solution on the horizon?

 Jocke
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