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Feature Requests

David Burleigh
I recently switched from Claws Email to Evolution, and for the most part I am very happy with it.  However, I really miss the following features of Claws and would think most Evolution users would appreciate them. Perhaps some of them already exist and I just haven't found them, and if so, please let me know:

1) A condition for filtering incoming mail: "Is in addressbook" or "Is not in addressbook"

2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing the number of unread messages

3) Ability to add an event to a calender that is a "point event", having just a "start time" and not an "end time", such as the arrival time of an incoming flight. I have to keep track of incoming guests for our institution and it is tedious to have to include an "end time" for each such event, and to see two times shown in the calendar when only one is significant.

Thank you for all the development work that has been and is being done on this very nice application.

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Re: Feature Requests

Andrea Vai
Hi David,
Il giorno gio, 11/05/2017 alle 04.16 -0400, David Burleigh ha scritto:
>
> [...]

> 3) Ability to add an event to a calender that is a "point event",
> having just a "start time" and not an "end time", such as the
> arrival
> time of an incoming flight. I have to keep track of incoming guests
> for
> our institution and it is tedious to have to include an "end time"
> for
> each such event, and to see two times shown in the calendar when
> only
> one is significant.

About request 3), I suppose that you could simply set the end time the
same as the begin time, 

best regards
Andrea

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Re: Feature Requests

Pete Biggs
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> 2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing
> the number of unread messages
>
Like it or not Evolution is a Gnome application and there is no such
thing as a "System Tray" in Gnome so it's not something that would
probably ever be part of the core Evolution. It's just simply not part
of the ethos of Gnome3.

Having said that there are plenty of 3rd party applications that will
do what you want - just Google for "evolution system tray".

P.



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Re: Feature Requests

Andre Klapper
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On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 04:16 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
> I recently switched from Claws Email to Evolution, and for the most
> part I am very happy with it.  

Happy to hear that. :)

> However, I really miss the following features of Claws and would
> think most Evolution users would appreciate them. Perhaps some of
> them already exist and I just haven't found them, and if so, please
> let me know:
>
> 1) A condition for filtering incoming mail: "Is in addressbook" or
> "Is not in addressbook"

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203062

> 2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing
> the number of unread messages

Personally I don't see a use case for this. Your desktop environment /
window manager might allow minimizing applications and settings for
mail notifications are available.
Maybe third-party applications (could) offer this but this should not
be part of the Evolution code base.

Cheers,
andre
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Re: Feature Requests

Patrick O'Callaghan
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On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 04:16 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:

> I recently switched from Claws Email to Evolution, and for the most
> part I am very happy with it.  However, I really miss the following
> features of Claws and would think most Evolution users would appreciate
> them. Perhaps some of them already exist and I just haven't found them,
> and if so, please let me know:
>
> 1) A condition for filtering incoming mail: "Is in addressbook" or "Is
> not in addressbook"
>
> 2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing
> the number of unread messages
>
> 3) Ability to add an event to a calender that is a "point event",
> having just a "start time" and not an "end time", such as the arrival
> time of an incoming flight. I have to keep track of incoming guests for
> our institution and it is tedious to have to include an "end time" for
> each such event, and to see two times shown in the calendar when only
> one is significant.
>
> Thank you for all the development work that has been and is being done
> on this very nice application.

Welcome to Evolution and to the list.

In order for Requests For Enhancement (RFEs) to be registered somewhere
and not just lost in the archives, the convention is to file them as
bug reports in Bugzilla (go to http://bugzilla.gnome.org to get
started). That doesn't guarantee they'll be attended to because
development resources are finite, but not filing them is a good way for
them to be forgotten.

I'd suggest filing each of your suggestions separately (though as
others have said, number 2 is probably not going to be implemented).

It's also conventional to post the BZ URL's here in case anyone else
wants to add their comments.

poc
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Re: Feature Requests

Joakim Tjernlund-2
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On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 04:16 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
> I recently switched from Claws Email to Evolution, and for the most part I am very happy with it.  However, I really miss the following features of Claws and would think most Evolution users would appreciate them. Perhaps some of them already exist and I just haven't found them, and if so, please let me know:
>

Before working on new features I rather see the Calendar getting fixed, there are a few
bugs since long time but no progress.

> 1) A condition for filtering incoming mail: "Is in addressbook" or "Is not in addressbook"
>
> 2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing the number of unread messages
>
> 3) Ability to add an event to a calender that is a "point event", having just a "start time" and not an "end time", such as the arrival time of an incoming flight. I have to keep track of incoming guests for our institution and it is tedious to have to include an "end time" for each such event, and to see two times shown in the calendar when only one is significant.
>
> Thank you for all the development work that has been and is being done on this very nice application.
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Re: Feature Requests

Youssef Mahmoud
I second fixing existing bugs before adding features. I have to restart Evolution and/or goa-daemon several times a day because account connections "go stale" (for lack of a more technical description). And I have pretty frequent problems adding events to a calendar from an email invite. Also, this isn't an Evolution problem but it impacts Evolution functionality - Seahorse seems incapable of fully managing PGP keys (I get lots of general errors when trying to do simple things like trust or sign a key, or import new keys from servers).

I really appreciate all the hard work that developers do to build and maintain free software, and don't want to sound like I'm ungrateful. I just think it'll be better for existing users and for recruiting new users if developers of the Gnome ecosystem spend more time ensuring a bug-free experience before pushing forward with new features and projects (do we really need a Recipes app when the keyring manager isn't fully functional yet?).

Sorry for veering off topic.

On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 15:27 +0000, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 04:16 -0400, David Burleigh wrote:
I recently switched from Claws Email to Evolution, and for the most part I am very happy with it.  However, I really miss the following features of Claws and would think most Evolution users would appreciate them. Perhaps some of them already exist and I just haven't found them, and if so, please let me know:
Before working on new features I rather see the Calendar getting fixed, there are a few bugs since long time but no progress.
1) A condition for filtering incoming mail: "Is in addressbook" or "Is not in addressbook" 2) Option to minimize/close to the System Tray, with an icon showing the number of unread messages 3) Ability to add an event to a calender that is a "point event", having just a "start time" and not an "end time", such as the arrival time of an incoming flight. I have to keep track of incoming guests for our institution and it is tedious to have to include an "end time" for each such event, and to see two times shown in the calendar when only one is significant. Thank you for all the development work that has been and is being done on this very nice application. _______________________________________________ evolution-list mailing list [hidden email] To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
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Re: Feature Requests

Andre Klapper
On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 12:15 -0400, Youssef Mahmoud wrote:
> I second fixing existing bugs before adding features. I have to
> restart Evolution and/or goa-daemon several times a day because
> account connections "go stale" (for lack of a more technical
> description). And I have pretty frequent problems adding events to a
> calendar from an email invite. Also, this isn't an Evolution problem
> but it impacts Evolution functionality - Seahorse seems incapable of
> fully managing PGP keys (I get lots of general errors when trying to
> do simple things like trust or sign a key, or import new keys from
> servers).

Do you have any bug reports to point to (and version / distro info)?

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Re: Feature Requests

Youssef Mahmoud
I just sort of assumed that this was pretty common among all users, since I have colleagues who also experience the same issues. However, I will start tracking these things better and filing bugs as I have time.

I can tell you that I have experienced these problems both in Fedora 25 and Ubuntu Gnome 17.04, each running the versions of the affected software that are packaged by default in those distros.

On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 18:31 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 12:15 -0400, Youssef Mahmoud wrote:
I second fixing existing bugs before adding features. I have to restart Evolution and/or goa-daemon several times a day because account connections "go stale" (for lack of a more technical description). And I have pretty frequent problems adding events to a calendar from an email invite. Also, this isn't an Evolution problem but it impacts Evolution functionality - Seahorse seems incapable of fully managing PGP keys (I get lots of general errors when trying to do simple things like trust or sign a key, or import new keys from servers).
Do you have any bug reports to point to (and version / distro info)? andre

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Re: Feature Requests

Ralf Mardorf-3
On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 13:18 -0400, Youssef Mahmoud wrote:
> I just sort of assumed that this was pretty common among all users,
> since I have colleagues who also experience the same issues. However,
> I will start tracking these things better and filing bugs as I have
> time.

Assuming that those bugs should be common among all users, if everybody
expects the other users to make their hands dirty, instead of doing it
on their own, then nobody ever would report a bug.

> I can tell you that I have experienced these problems both in Fedora
> 25 and Ubuntu Gnome 17.04, each running the versions of the affected
> software that are packaged by default in those distros.

And what versions are packaged by default? Do you expect that it's
common that other people know what versions are packaged by the distros
you are using?

;)

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Re: Feature Requests

Youssef Mahmoud
Points taken. I'll file bug reports and provide more info as time permits.

On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 20:25 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 13:18 -0400, Youssef Mahmoud wrote:
I just sort of assumed that this was pretty common among all users, since I have colleagues who also experience the same issues. However, I will start tracking these things better and filing bugs as I have time.
Assuming that those bugs should be common among all users, if everybody expects the other users to make their hands dirty, instead of doing it on their own, then nobody ever would report a bug.
I can tell you that I have experienced these problems both in Fedora 25 and Ubuntu Gnome 17.04, each running the versions of the affected software that are packaged by default in those distros.
And what versions are packaged by default? Do you expect that it's common that other people know what versions are packaged by the distros you are using? ;) _______________________________________________ evolution-list mailing list [hidden email] To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

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