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Font size in HTML mail ?

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I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there should be 
some % number setting somewhere ?

  Jocke
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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:49 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
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> I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
> a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there
> should be some % number setting somewhere ?

        Hi,
if you mean when reading HTML mails, then you can Ctrl+MouseWheel to
change the zoom temporarily, or you can limit the minimum font size in
Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display
section->Minimum Font Size option. Evolution used to set it, but I
removed it for the 3.38.0.
        Bye,
        Milan

P.S.: a side note: Gmail seems to understand "Normal" font size as
"small" for the rest of the world, which makes it hard to read when
people change the font size in the Gmail's web UI. No idea whether it's
your case too, this is just one place I noticed it with (reported to
Google weeks ago, no response from them yet).

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 14:02 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

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> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 13:49 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > I really need to increase the font size these days and I cannot find
> > a setting that affects the contents of HTML contents. I guess there
> > should be some % number setting somewhere ?
>
>         Hi,
> if you mean when reading HTML mails, then you can Ctrl+MouseWheel to
> change the zoom temporarily, or you can limit the minimum font size in
> Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab->Message Display
> section->Minimum Font Size option. Evolution used to set it, but I
> removed it for the 3.38.0.

Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?

The control+Mouse think is a bit fiddly to do every time.

>         Bye,
>         Milan
>
> P.S.: a side note: Gmail seems to understand "Normal" font size as
> "small" for the rest of the world, which makes it hard to read when
> people change the font size in the Gmail's web UI. No idea whether it's
> your case too, this is just one place I noticed it with (reported to
> Google weeks ago, no response from them yet).

For it is just that my eyes are getting "old"

  Jocke
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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 15:36 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
> Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?

        Hi,
there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
documentation:

   The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
   controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
   potentially break page layouts.

Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.

The other font settings (above this Minimum Font Size option in the
Preferences) can influence the default font size, from which are
derived other sizes (unless the HTML contains absolute sizes).

I'd rather not add an option for "the default zoom".
        Bye,
        Milan

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 16:07 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

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> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 15:36 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > Minimum Font Size works for me :) Please add back..
> > Maybe some default zoom, like firefox has, instead ?
>
>         Hi,
> there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
> option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
> it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
> documentation:
>
>    The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
>    controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
>    potentially break page layouts.
>
> Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.
>
> The other font settings (above this Minimum Font Size option in the
> Preferences) can influence the default font size, from which are
> derived other sizes (unless the HTML contains absolute sizes).
>
> I'd rather not add an option for "the default zoom".

Right, it was just an suggestion but I though you had removed something,
like Minimum font size?

Also, I just noted that Min font size didn't really work for HTML mails(from Outlook),
still at original size. Should not min font size affect all HTML mail, regardless
of abs. font size?

 Jocke

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On 10/1/20 8:07 AM, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:

> Hi,
> there's nothing to be added back from my point of view. Users have the
> option fully under their control now. The option is not about the zoom,
> it's really about the minimum font size. Quoting from the WebKitGTK
> documentation:
>
>     The minimum font size in pixels used to display text. This setting
>     controls the absolute smallest size. Values other than 0 can
>     potentially break page layouts.
>
> Thus that Evolution forced its own value there was kind of a bad idea.

One idea I saw in a phone mail client that seemed to work well combines
minimum font and zoom.

Zoom is applied until the smallest font is at least the minimum size.
Everything else gets bigger. This preserves the page layout at the
expense of scrolling, but the user is of course able to use pinch-zoom
to see the entire message.

That might be a good option for Evolution if someone is reworking the
HTML display code.

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 17:18 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> Right, it was just an suggestion but I though you had removed
> something, like Minimum font size?

        Hi,
no, I did not remove anything, I only moved it in a way that users have
control over it.

> Also, I just noted that Min font size didn't really work for HTML
> mails(from Outlook), still at original size.

Works for me, with an Undelivered message notification from the server.
I tried with value 50, which made the text super-large. Remember, it's
pixels. If you are on hiDPI, then maybe the value should be larger. In
any case, the drawing is handled by WebKitGTK, thus if anything doesn't
work it might be a question for them. Evolution only sets the value.
        Bye,
        Milan

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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Am Donnerstag, dem 01.10.2020 um 17:57 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha via evolution-list:
> On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 17:18 +0200, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
> > Right, it was just an suggestion but I though you had removed
> > something, like Minimum font size?
>
>         Hi,
> no, I did not remove anything, I only moved it in a way that users have
> control over it.

I am afraid that I do not understand fully. The possibility to specify a minimum font size for
displaying HTML mails in Evolution was removed in order to allow users "control over it"?

How do users now have "control over it"?

I am using Evolution on Manjaro Linux (xfce) - is there some setting, for example in dconf, that I
can adjust?

Thank you very much and kind regards.

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Re: Font size in HTML mail ?

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On Mon, 2021-01-25 at 15:54 +0100, Gerd Röthig via evolution-list
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> How do users now have "control over it"?

        Hi,
just navigate to Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->General tab and
near the top, where you can override the font settings, is added an
option named "Minimum Font Size: [xxx] (in pixels)". My quotes just for
clarity, yours for... something else.

        Bye,
        Milan

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