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Bjørn T Johansen
At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread messages or the next message in the same folder.
Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution settings.

What can cause this?


Regards,

BTJ


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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I
> reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread
> messages or the next message in the same folder.
> Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the
> same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution
> settings.
>
> What can cause this?

Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821
which is fixed in 3.22.2.

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I
> > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread
> > messages or the next message in the same folder.
> > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the
> > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution
> > settings.
> >
> > What can cause this?
>
> Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821
> which is fixed in 3.22.2.
>
> Cheers,
> andre
>

Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two computers.
I am using 3.22.6 btw..

BTJ

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Tom
Am Dienstag, den 14.03.2017, 11:56 +0100 schrieb Bjørn T Johansen:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When I
> > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread
> > > messages or the next message in the same folder.
> > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running the
> > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution
> > > settings.
> > >
> > > What can cause this?
> >
> > Which exact Evolution version is this about? There was
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771821
> > which is fixed in 3.22.2.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > andre
> >
>
> Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two computers.
> I am using 3.22.6 btw..

... maybe, we should wait for Milan, because he commented the following
code

    <key name="magic-spacebar" type="b">
      <default>true</default>
      <_summary>Enable or disable magic space bar</_summary>
      <_description>Enable this to use Space bar key to scroll in
message preview, message list and folders.</_description>
</key>

found at
https://github.com/GNOME/evolution/blob/master/data/org.gnome.evolution.mail.gschema.xml.in


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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Andre Klapper
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When
> > > I
> > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread
> > > messages or the next message in the same folder.
> > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running
> > > the
> > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution
> > > settings.
> > >
> > > What can cause this?
> >
> Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on
> the two computers.
> I am using 3.22.6 btw..

Could you run the following command on both machines?:
     gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Ralf Mardorf-3
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Could you run the following command on both machines?:
>      gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar

Shouldn't the OP run

  gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true

too?

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:46 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 08:14 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > > At work I can use space to scroll down on selected message. When
> > > > I
> > > > reach the end of the message, it jump to next folder with unread
> > > > messages or the next message in the same folder.
> > > > Trying to do the same thing at home, does not work. I am running
> > > > the
> > > > same distro, same Evolution and as far as I know, same Evolution
> > > > settings.
> > > >
> > > > What can cause this?
> >
> > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on
> > the two computers.
> > I am using 3.22.6 btw..
>
> Could you run the following command on both machines?:
>      gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar
>
> Thanks,
> andre
>

It returns true on both machines...

BTJ
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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Ralf Mardorf-3
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:22 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> >      gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar
>
> It returns true on both machines...

A shot in the dark:

I would check if permissions of dconf are correct.
After running an app using dconf, too, e.g. an editor, with root
privileges, dconf permissions could switch from user to root and this
could cause issues.

$ ls -l .cache/dconf/user .config/dconf/user /run/user/*/dconf/user

If required I would change permissions of .config/dconf/user to
user:user by running "chown" and simply delete .cache/dconf/user and
/run/user/*/dconf/user followed by running

$ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar false

and directly after that

$ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:22 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > >      gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar
> >
> > It returns true on both machines...
>
> A shot in the dark:
>
> I would check if permissions of dconf are correct.
> After running an app using dconf, too, e.g. an editor, with root
> privileges, dconf permissions could switch from user to root and this
> could cause issues.
>
> $ ls -l .cache/dconf/user .config/dconf/user /run/user/*/dconf/user
>
> If required I would change permissions of .config/dconf/user to
> user:user by running "chown" and simply delete .cache/dconf/user and
> /run/user/*/dconf/user followed by running

The permissions are right but I do not have a .cache/dconf folder (but I guess that is all right...)

>
> $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar false
>
> and directly after that
>
> $ gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>
Ok, changed to false and then to true, but still the same..


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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Milan Crha
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two computers.
> I am using 3.22.6 btw..

        Hi,
does the space-bar do anything at all, on the affected machine? For
example, I click into the message list (which selects one of the
messages and shows it into the preview panel). Then I press space bar
and the message preview is scrolled down, or I'm moved to another
unread message in the same folder. When I disable preview panel
(Ctrl+M), then the space bar simply moves between unread messages in
the selected folder.

Try to run evolution from a terminal, whether anything useful would be
there. Check also what message is selected, this one (plain text)
should work just fine.

Andre's bug reference was correct, it was the change which made it
work. One issue can be with webkitgtk4, but you might have installed
the same versions on both machines (rpm -qa | grep webkitgtk4).
        Bye,
        Milan
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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Andre Klapper
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:11 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > Could you run the following command on both machines?:
> >      gsettings get org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar
>
> Shouldn't the OP run
>
>   gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail magic-spacebar true
>
> too?

Not when you still try to track down the potential problem?

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:32 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 11:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > Didn't think it could be a bug, since I am using the same version on the two computers.
> > I am using 3.22.6 btw..
>
> Hi,
> does the space-bar do anything at all, on the affected machine? For
> example, I click into the message list (which selects one of the
> messages and shows it into the preview panel). Then I press space bar
> and the message preview is scrolled down, or I'm moved to another
> unread message in the same folder. When I disable preview panel
> (Ctrl+M), then the space bar simply moves between unread messages in
> the selected folder.

Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview, the message scrolls when pressing space.
>
> Try to run evolution from a terminal, whether anything useful would be
> there. Check also what message is selected, this one (plain text)
> should work just fine.

No messages write in the terminal window

>
> Andre's bug reference was correct, it was the change which made it
> work. One issue can be with webkitgtk4, but you might have installed
> the same versions on both machines (rpm -qa | grep webkitgtk4).
> Bye,
> Milan

I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit for gtk4
(but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...)

BTJ
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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Ralf Mardorf-3
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Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard?

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard?
>

I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-)

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Ralf Mardorf-3
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:11 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard?
> >
>
> I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-)

Perhaps the scancodes of the two installs are mapped to different
keycodes ;).

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_keyboard_keys

This doesn't help, but explains a possible issue:

"Pressing Space key inside the settings GUI works.
Pressing Space key in-game doesn't work (no action at all)"

- https://github.com/yvt/openspades/issues/559

https://github.com/ianmaclarty/amulet/issues/99

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:11 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > Could it be a scancode vs keycodes issue with the used keyboard?
> > >
> >
> > I am actually using the same keyboards as well.. :-)
>
> Perhaps the scancodes of the two installs are mapped to different
> keycodes ;).
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_keyboard_keys
>
> This doesn't help, but explains a possible issue:
>
> "Pressing Space key inside the settings GUI works.
> Pressing Space key in-game doesn't work (no action at all)"
>
> - https://github.com/yvt/openspades/issues/559
>
> https://github.com/ianmaclarty/amulet/issues/99
>

Thanks for the input but I guess space is working as it scrolls the message if the message is too large for the message preview...

BTJ

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Milan Crha
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On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview,
> the message scrolls when pressing space.

        Hi,
okay, so the space bar actually works, but there are cases where it
doesn't work on the home machine? If it at least scrolls, then it means
you've the magic scape bar enabled (just as your gsettings command
shows). Evolution moves to the next unread message only if there is no
more place to scroll down in the preview (which is a reason why it
jumps to the next message immediately when the preview panel is off.
There can be any detail related, like whether you have setup Prefer
plain, whether you let it show HTML parts as attachments and so on.
That's one of the reasons why I wanted to test on a plain text message
first.

Try, at home, with and without preview panel, then mark some message as
unread in one folder and let evolution cycle between them in the same
folder (like have at least two messages unread).

The magic space bar doesn't rely on the account type, I'm pretty sure
it doesn't, but even if, then I suppose you've configured the same
accounts on both machines.

> I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit for gtk4
> (but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...)

Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The
name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall
some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like
that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API
for WebKit2 interface (also API).
        Bye,
        Milan
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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Bjørn T Johansen
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 14:52 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 13:56 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > Yes, when a message is longer than is shown in the message preview,
> > the message scrolls when pressing space.
>
> Hi,
> okay, so the space bar actually works, but there are cases where it
> doesn't work on the home machine? If it at least scrolls, then it means
> you've the magic scape bar enabled (just as your gsettings command
> shows). Evolution moves to the next unread message only if there is no
> more place to scroll down in the preview (which is a reason why it
> jumps to the next message immediately when the preview panel is off.
> There can be any detail related, like whether you have setup Prefer
> plain, whether you let it show HTML parts as attachments and so on.
> That's one of the reasons why I wanted to test on a plain text message
> first.
>
> Try, at home, with and without preview panel, then mark some message as
> unread in one folder and let evolution cycle between them in the same
> folder (like have at least two messages unread).
>
> The magic space bar doesn't rely on the account type, I'm pretty sure
> it doesn't, but even if, then I suppose you've configured the same
> accounts on both machines.
>
> > I am running Arch but could not find a package with similar name as webkit for gtk4
> > (but both computers are up 2 date so should be running the same libs...)
>
> Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The
> name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall
> some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like
> that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API
> for WebKit2 interface (also API).
> Bye,
> Milan
>

Ok, tried to use space on some mails that were marked unread in my Evolution folder but space only scrolls to the bottom of the message (if showing
message preview and the message is larger than it can display in the preview)
When not showing preview, then nothing happens when pressing space.
Also I have copied my settings from home to work and are using the same accounts both places, so type of account should not matter.

It my be this lib that is the same: webkit2gtk 2.14.5-1 but as I said, both computers should be running the same libs..

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Ralf Mardorf-3
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 14:52:19 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
>Ah, right, different distributions can have it named differently. The
>name I used was from Fedora. I do not know Arch linux, but I recall
>some distro has it packaged as libwebkit2gtk-4.0 or something like
>that. The thing is that it's a WebKitGTK+ library providing gtk+ API
>for WebKit2 interface (also API).

Some information about Arch Linux's webkit related packages:

Arch Linux doesn't split to packages, IOW "foo" is "foo" and not "foo"
+ "libfoo" + "foo-dev" + "foo-docs" etc.. Debugging packages could be
build, but aren't provided at all.

This are all packages from official Arch repositories related to the
search term "webkit" [1], including packages with a description
mentioning "webkit", but the description is filtered by the piped grep.

There are CVE issues with webkit [2]. Sure, the CVE issues aren't
related to the spacebar, but users should be aware about those issues.

Due to the CVE issues Arch stopped building Claws with webkit [3].

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Ss webkit | grep -v "    "
extra/epiphany 3.22.6-1 (gnome)
extra/kdewebkit 5.32.0-1 (kf5) [installed]
extra/qt5-webkit 5.8.0-1 (qt qt5) [installed]
extra/qt5-webkit-ng tp5-2
extra/webkit2gtk 2.14.5-1 [installed]
extra/webkitgtk 2.4.11-4 [installed]
extra/webkitgtk2 2.4.11-4 [installed]
community/gambas3-gb-qt5-webkit 3.9.2-2 (gambas3) [installed]
community/phantomjs 2.1.1-4
community/qutebrowser 0.10.1-1
community/surf 0.7+199+gda5290a-1
community/webkit2-sharp 2.10.9-1

[2]
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ arch-audit | grep webkit
Package webkitgtk is affected by

["CVE-2017-2373", "CVE-2017-2371",
"CVE-2017-2369", "CVE-2017-2366", "CVE-2017-2365", "CVE-2017-2364",
"CVE-2017-2363", "CVE-2017-2362", "CVE-2017-2356", "CVE-2017-2355",
"CVE-2017-2354", "CVE-2017-2350"]. Critical risk!

Package webkitgtk2 is affected by

["CVE-2017-2373", "CVE-2017-2371",
"CVE-2017-2369", "CVE-2017-2366", "CVE-2017-2365", "CVE-2017-2364",
"CVE-2017-2363", "CVE-2017-2362", "CVE-2017-2356", "CVE-2017-2355",
"CVE-2017-2354", "CVE-2017-2350"]. Critical risk!

[3]
"2017-01-19 upgpkg: claws-mail 3.14.1-2 andyrtr
       
disable fancy html plugin - Arch is dropping outdated webkitgtk due to
CVEs

git-svn-id: file:///srv/repos/svn-packages/svn@286991
eb2447ed-0c53-47e4-bac8-5bc4a241df78" -
https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/log/trunk?h=packages/claws-mail&showmsg=1

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Re: Space to jump to next message does not work?

Milan Crha
On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 15:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> There are CVE issues with webkit [2]. Sure, the CVE issues aren't
> related to the spacebar, but users should be aware about those issues.

        Hi,
yes, makes sense. Just do not confuse webkitgtk, webkitgtk2 and
webkit2gtk, the last is way different from the two former. Evolution
also switched to WebKit2 due to the security issues and because the
WebKitGTK+ upstream has no capacity to take care of WebKit1.

Fedora is getting rid of WebKit1 soon too (or already did, I do not
know for sure, the main point is that applications based on WebKit1
should port to WebKit2 and that's it).
        Bye,
        Milan
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