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Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Christopher Marlow-3
Hi,

I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed the
spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam folder.

I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as spam
constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the spam
folder.

I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Christopher Marlow-3
On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed the
> spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam folder.
>
> I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> spam
> constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the spam
> folder.
>
> I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
>
> Picture Here: https://imgur.com/a/x63xJAh
>
>
>
> Evolution 3.34.4
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
> [hidden email]
>
>


Another question like how many times do I have to mark that certain
domain as spam before BOGO knows I do not want to see emails from that
domain in my inbox? I have been marking the emails as junk by clicking
the MARK AS JUNK button in the toolbar over over 2 to 3 weeks now.

Thanks,
Chris




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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed the
> spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam folder.
>
> I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as spam
> constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the spam
> folder.
>
> I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working

See https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-marking.html

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:37 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> Another question like how many times do I have to mark that certain
> domain as spam before BOGO knows I do not want to see emails from that
> domain in my inbox? I have been marking the emails as junk by clicking
> the MARK AS JUNK button in the toolbar over over 2 to 3 weeks now.

That might be covered by https://bogofilter.sourceforge.io/faq.shtml
linked from
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-settings.html -
in any case, it's nothing that Evolution itself has influence on.

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Christopher Marlow-2
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 20:07 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed
> > the
> > spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam
> > folder.
> >
> > I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> > spam
> > constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the
> > spam
> > folder.
> >
> > I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
>
> See
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-marking.html
>
> Cheers,
> andre
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>
>


I read that already before you even replied to me, and it didnt tell me
anything on why its not moving those emails to the spam folder after
constantly clicking THIS IS SPAM...

 As I said I have been telling it for the last 2 months anything
chipsnali.com / net I forget which suffix it ends with, that it is bad
and to send it to spam when it comes in.

I dont understand why by now it should understand that I dont want to
see emails from that company and to send it to the spam folder. You'd
think after a month or two of clicking THIS IS SPAM that it would learn
to not even show me those emails and to move them to the spam folder.

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Christopher Marlow-3
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 20:07 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed
> > the
> > spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam
> > folder.
> >
> > I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> > spam
> > constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the
> > spam
> > folder.
> >
> > I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
>
> See
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-marking.html
>
> Cheers,
> andre
> --
>

I read that already before you even replied to me, and it didnt tell me
anything on why its not moving those emails to the spam folder after
constantly clicking THIS IS SPAM...

 As I said I have been telling it for the last 2 months anything
chipsnali.com / net I forget which suffix it ends with, that it is bad
and to send it to spam when it comes in.

I dont understand why by now it should understand that I dont want to
see emails from that company and to send it to the spam folder. You'd
think after a month or two of clicking THIS IS SPAM that it would learn
to not even show me those emails and to move them to the spam folder.

What do you mean EVO does not have any influence?




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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 14:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 20:07 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > > I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed
> > > the
> > > spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> > > spam
> > > constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the
> > > spam
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
> >
> > See
> >
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-marking.html

>
> I read that already before you even replied to me, and it didnt tell me
> anything on why its not moving those emails to the spam folder after
> constantly clicking THIS IS SPAM...

That's a good question for a Bogofilter forum.

>  As I said I have been telling it for the last 2 months anything
> chipsnali.com / net I forget which suffix it ends with, that it is bad
> and to send it to spam when it comes in.

(Technically you told Bogofilter that specific emails are spam. You did
not tell Bogofilter that messages *from a specific address* are spam.)

> I dont understand why by now it should understand that I dont want to
> see emails from that company and to send it to the spam folder. You'd
> think after a month or two of clicking THIS IS SPAM that it would learn
> to not even show me those emails and to move them to the spam folder.
>
> What do you mean EVO does not have any influence?

According to you, you are using Bogofilter for spam handling. 
Identifying messages as spam is NOT performed by Evolution.

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Gary Koskenmaki
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 14:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 20:07 +0200, Andre Klapper via evolution-list
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed
> > > the
> > > spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> > > spam
> > > constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the
> > > spam
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
> >
> > See
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-spam-marking.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> > andre
> > --
> >
>
> I read that already before you even replied to me, and it didnt tell me
> anything on why its not moving those emails to the spam folder after
> constantly clicking THIS IS SPAM...
>
>  As I said I have been telling it for the last 2 months anything
> chipsnali.com / net I forget which suffix it ends with, that it is bad
> and to send it to spam when it comes in.
>
> I dont understand why by now it should understand that I dont want to
> see emails from that company and to send it to the spam folder. You'd
> think after a month or two of clicking THIS IS SPAM that it would learn
> to not even show me those emails and to move them to the spam folder.
>
> What do you mean EVO does not have any influence?
>
>
>
>
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I had this same problem using bogofilter.  My solution was to install the evolution-plugin-spamassassin and spamassassin
packages from my Linux distro  and then go to Evolution Preferences->Mail Preferences->Junk and enable Spam Assassin in
place of bogofilter on the following option: junk filtering software:.  I still get a few emails that the filter doesn't
catch but it does catch most of them after marking junk mail as junk.  

I hadn't had a piece of junk mail in years as my email provider was stopping all junk mail, so these are pretty
sophisticated junk mail senders.  I'm not surprised that bogofilter was having problems with them but enabling
spamassassin seems to work pretty well.  

If you run Windows I have no idea what extra packages you would have install as I haven't run windows now for 15 years
or so.  I would imagine there are online resources that will tell you what you need to do in Windows.

I run the 3.36.4 version of Evolution.

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Christopher Marlow-3
On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 17:40 -0700, Gary Koskenmaki wrote:
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> and then go to Evolution Preferences-
> >Mail Preferences->Junk and enable Spam Assassin in
> place of bogofilter on the following option: junk filtering
> software:.

I don't have that option under " junk filtering software"
I installed The Spam Assassin plug in and then removed the bogo filter.

How do I enable it?


This is what I see on my screen:

https://imgur.com/a/1EEQBBC


Thanks,
Chris




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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Gary Koskenmaki
On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 19:57 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 17:40 -0700, Gary Koskenmaki wrote:
> > > evolution-list mailing list
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> >
> > and then go to Evolution Preferences-
> > > Mail Preferences->Junk and enable Spam Assassin in
> > place of bogofilter on the following option: junk filtering
> > software:.
>
> I don't have that option under " junk filtering software"
> I installed The Spam Assassin plug in and then removed the bogo filter.
>
> How do I enable it?
>
>
> This is what I see on my screen:
>
> https://imgur.com/a/1EEQBBC
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
I'm guessing here, but I would imagine the option doesn't appear is because you uninstalled bogofilter and no longer
have options available to you. You're entirely dependent on spamassassin.  

The only difference between your checked options and mine other than that is you didn't choose to delete junk mail. That
may be your entire problem right there.  I set that option to delete junk mail to delete junk once a week.  

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Christopher Marlow-3
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 17:40 -0700, Gary Koskenmaki wrote:
>
I had this same problem using bogofilter.  My solution was to install
> the evolution-plugin-spamassassin and spamassassin
packages from my Linux distro  and then go to Evolution Preferences-
> >Mail Preferences->Junk and enable Spam Assassin in
place of bogofilter on the following option: junk filtering
> software:.  I still get a few emails that the filter doesn't
catch but it does catch most of them after marking junk mail as
> junk.  

I hadn't had a piece of junk mail in years as my email provider was
> stopping all junk mail, so these are pretty
sophisticated junk mail senders.  I'm not surprised that bogofilter
> was having problems with them but enabling
spamassassin seems to work pretty well.  

If you run Windows I have no idea what extra packages you would have
> install as I haven't run windows now for 15 years
or so.  I would imagine there are online resources that will tell you
> what you need to do in Windows.

I run the 3.36.4 version of Evolution.




> Oh lord... Spam Assassin marked legit emails as apam.. 2 emails from
> Yahoo ( for my moms old account) and 2 from the local news station
> and replies to this message got marked as spam.. What do I do to
> stopthat from happening?

Thanks,
Chris
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Christopher Marlow-3
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 12:22 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with the spam filter.. I use pop3 and I noticed the
> spam filter is not picking up spam and moving it to the spam folder.
>
> I have the bogo filter installed via YaST. I mark the messages as
> spam
> constantly and they continue to come to my inbox instead of the spam
> folder.
>
> I cannot figure out why the spam filter is not working
>
> Picture Here: https://imgur.com/a/x63xJAh
>
>
>
> Evolution 3.34.4
>

Gary,

I am trying to set up a " SAFE LIST" to where SA can scan my address
book and not put emails that are legit in the spam folder.

I hope I am doing the right thing.

https://imgur.com/a/VGzXWpm

Thanks,
Chris

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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 14:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> As I said I have been telling it for the last 2 months anything
> chipsnali.com / net I forget which suffix it ends with, that it is
> bad and to send it to spam when it comes in.

        Hi,
if you know that you do not want to read/receive messages from certain
domain, then there's nothing simpler than to use Edit->Message
Filters->Add->fill name, then Condition as: Sender contains ...., then
the action will be: Set Status Junk. You may eventually add also action
Sent Status Read and for sure also Stop Processing.

On Sun, 2020-10-25 at 12:30 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> > Oh lord... Spam Assassin marked legit emails as apam.. 2 emails
> > from Yahoo ( for my moms old account) and 2 from the local news
> > station and replies to this message got marked as spam.. What do
> > I do to stopthat from happening?

You need to train the spam filtering software first, with spam and ham,
the same as you did with Bogofilter. Such training may need time. You
can select legitimate mails in any folder and click "Not Junk" to train
it in a batch. Maybe revert back to Bogofilter (you've it trained into
some extent already) and use it in the combination with the Message
Filter.
        Bye,
        Milan

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Re: Spam filter not moving spam to spam folder anymore.

Patrick O'Callaghan
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On Sat, 2020-10-24 at 14:05 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> I dont understand why by now it should understand that I dont want to
>
> see emails from that company and to send it to the spam folder. You'd
>
> think after a month or two of clicking THIS IS SPAM that it would learn
>
> to not even show me those emails and to move them to the spam folder.

Unless I'm missing something, you are using a new spam filter
(SpamAssassin). Any training you did with Bogofilter is moot. These are
independent programs (independent of each other and independent of
Evolution). You need to train SA to get it to work properly.

poc

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